Who is this for?

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer) 01/24/2019 at 20:27 • Filed to: None

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The F52 1er...

Based on the UKL2 platform, we get the 118i (136hp) and the 120i (192hp).
Now, what shocked me is that this 1er is made in China, and despite not having an FTA with China, this....thing.... is cheaper than the older F20 in the 118i guise... which is sold along side it.

I mean, by 500 dollars give or take, but what I wonder is... who, who knows about BMWs, wants this car? It’s basically a heavy less practical Mini Cooper, and the F20 is pretty much better at, erm, everything.
 
If you’re a true fan of speed, you’d want to buy the 120i and surprise, surprise! The 120i F20 is RWD, and cheaper than the F52 120i model...

If “they” want the Sedan style and don’t care about the FWD, well, still bad luck for BMW. The Audi A3 is a lot cheaper than either 1er, and trim by trim it has more power.

The saving grace for this car would be to adapt the Countryman’s hybrid drive system, turn up the wick on that motor, and get an AWD 250hp small sedan that could chase GTIs

At a much higher cost I suspect.

boredalways > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:37

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That color is just not doing it for me

Spanfeller is a twat > boredalways 01/24/2019 at 20:40

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Not a fan of Goldenep isse metallisch?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:42

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You buy it for the badge. 

way2blu does a rev update > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:43

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It’s for when you want a Mercedes CLA but can’t afford turn signals

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:44

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the same people these  are  for...

Spanfeller is a twat > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/24/2019 at 20:45

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But is Mini a significantly worse badge? Or Audi for that matter?

Spanfeller is a twat > way2blu does a rev update 01/24/2019 at 20:45

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Or don't want more powerful engines and possibly AWD.

Spanfeller is a twat > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 01/24/2019 at 20:46

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Yes! Except the CLA is much prettier.

CRider > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:46

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It’t the BMW that zigs. 

Spanfeller is a twat > CRider 01/24/2019 at 20:46

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What do you mean?

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:48

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For those who can’t or won’t handle a base 3er lease.

CRider > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:50

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It was a reference to an ad for  the Cadillac Catera, although the car I was thinking of was actually the Cim arron. 

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 01/24/2019 at 20:50

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Leases are shit here in Mexico, super high rates.

I honestly don't know who this is for in this market, in China I get it because of their wierd tax code.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:51

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I t is if you’re a social-climbing corporate ladd er idiot.

Chariotoflove > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:51

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He’s making a Catera reference. 

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 20:51

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Who wouldn’t want a tiny, piss yellow, FWD BMW 4 door “ coupe”?

Can I get it with a 3 cylinder engine and slush box transmission?

Spanfeller is a twat > WilliamsSW 01/24/2019 at 20:54

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You can only get it with an auto here... but you can get it with a 3cyl or a 4cyl

Spanfeller is a twat > Chariotoflove 01/24/2019 at 20:54

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Oh.

Spanfeller is a twat > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 01/24/2019 at 20:55

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I guess I don't understand influencers then.

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:00

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I will do a lease with zero down payment on a stripped 3 cylinder.

All I really want is to be able to tell people I drive a BMW

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:02

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This is for the in fluenced, not the influencer.  

WilliamsSW > CRider 01/24/2019 at 21:03

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That’s just two different ways of spelling shitty Cadillac 

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > WilliamsSW 01/24/2019 at 21:04

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^ T his.

Spanfeller is a twat > WilliamsSW 01/24/2019 at 21:05

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If you pay 500 dollars more you can tell people you drive a RWD BMW and then you can shit on the people with the X1, X2, the F52 and the ATs of the world.

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:05

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Leases are the cash cow for premium makers in Murka, and I think have grown in Yourup too.

I suspect a Chinese-made BMW would hit the ground here with a huge thud, might not happen any time in the near future.

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:07

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I’m all about the badge. Everything else is irrelevant. 

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 01/24/2019 at 21:08

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But leases sort of make sense in the US if it’s for a premium car, you pay half the money, you’ve got a right to half of the car’s value... in the US consumers aren’t affected by leases as much because the second hand market is a lot stronger than here.

I've seen BMW try CPO here and it mostly fails miserably, most consumers would prefer to finance or buy an X3 than a used X5.

Spanfeller is a twat > WilliamsSW 01/24/2019 at 21:10

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But the opportunities

You could be like “HUR DUR your 3cyl auto fwd car is less of a BMW than my 3cyl auto BMW CUS ITS RWD!"

CRider > WilliamsSW 01/24/2019 at 21:11

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Yes, but the Catera was RWD unlike the Cimarron. 

boredalways > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:11

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Now we just need a Lada Niva in the same color

dogisbadob > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:16

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that’s a cool color

facw > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:20

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I mean, it’s for people who want a new BMW but can’t afford a new BMW. You can argue that this thing should be an embarrassment to the BMW brand, and no one should want to buy it, but it, but the person who does want it doesn’t care as long as they can be seen with the roundel on their hood (I guess technically it isn’t on the hood, but you know what I mean) .

Spanfeller is a twat > facw 01/24/2019 at 21:23

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That’s kind of the issue I have with it. A brand councious person could pay 500 bucks more and get a proper RWD BMW or save a heck of a lot of money and get a more powerful A3, which is a lot prettier in my mind. So again, WHY? Specially those who spring for the 120i.

Granted, if I had 27k USD to burn on a car, I’d get a GTI or a Kia Niro (i know, different ends of the scale but whatever) either car is more luxurious and more powerful.

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:23

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Do cars depreciate swiftly there? I didn’t know that.

Reminds me of something, when I was a kid, my dad knew a guy who would buy common ~5 year old American sedans, and ship them down to Mexico to resell and double his money.

404 - User No Longer Available > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:23

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No it’s not. It looks cheap, and screams “I can’t afford a C-Class”.

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 01/24/2019 at 21:29

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Difference is “common”... common cars hold their value somewhat well .

Luxury cars here depreciate very quickly, not only because consumers are distrustful, but because shitty roads, shitty gas, and maybe even shitty 1st owners take a huge toll on these sophisticated cars.

So if you were to buy the CPO X5, in your mind you’d be looking at thousands of dollars in fixing the suspension in six months, and the engine timing in nine, so on and so forth.

On the other hand, the new X3 won't give you any trouble for the first four years, and on the 5th you wont mind as much.

Spanfeller is a twat > 404 - User No Longer Available 01/24/2019 at 21:30

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Okay, then I'll get the A class.

Spanfeller is a twat > fintail 01/24/2019 at 21:31

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Some early lease deals I’ve seen assume a 70% depreciation after four years.

facw > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 21:31

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A brand conscious person probably doesn’t care at all about RWD, they just want to be seen in a BMW. Sure you could drive an Audi, but that’s a less premium brand. And they’d certainly never drive a Kia. I imagine in Mexico VW is not thought of as a premium brand as well (here in the US it has a slightly more positive image, due in no small part to the fact that every other European brand we get is a luxury or near luxury brand (except Fiat, but there aren’t many of those anyway)) .

Obviously that’s a silly way to be, but there’s no question people are like that.

BeaterGT > WilliamsSW 01/24/2019 at 21:38

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Can't wait to put those stripes in the grill though! 

WilliamsSW > CRider 01/24/2019 at 21:53

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True- the Catera wasn’t good, but God the Cimarron was awful. 

WilliamsSW > BeaterGT 01/24/2019 at 21:54

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“ this baby can take so many effing ///M badges"

fintail > Spanfeller is a twat 01/24/2019 at 23:13

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I’ve seen some here with nearly that much residual after 3 years.

What you say about sketchy roads, iffy fuels , and maybe dumb owners makes sense though. Also maybe why those cars from the US might have fetched a premium.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Spanfeller is a twat 01/25/2019 at 03:40

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it’s for posers who want to be seen in a new BMW

probably wife/GF/partner/Significant Other/better half

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > Spanfeller is a twat 01/25/2019 at 06:41

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There are people who prefer FWD. M y parents believe firey death will occur within seconds in a RWD car in anything but bright sunshine and dry roads. They would absolutely buy this over a RWD one. 

Spanfeller is a twat > Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! 01/25/2019 at 09:34

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How about a manufacturer known for introducing safe FWD cars ... ie Audi?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 01/25/2019 at 09:36

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I was really hoping that they’d make an M2 GC (with a manual and a usable back seat).

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 01/25/2019 at 09:38

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I mean, the i 8 has the same three pot engine, I bet that you could make a very powerful hybrid out of this car without significant modification...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 01/25/2019 at 10:05

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FWD no care. 

Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! > Spanfeller is a twat 01/25/2019 at 10:23

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My post made no mention of brand. I’m saying that there are people who do not want a RWD regardless of who makes it. Not sure how an Audi is more safe than a BMW, though. I’d say you’re doing it wrong  if you are buying a FWD from either of those brands.

Spanfeller is a twat > Eury - AFRICA TWIN!!!!!!! 01/25/2019 at 10:36

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Well, the F52 isn’t for the US or EU market... so I wouldn’t be surprised if safety wasn’t a primary focus.

Also, the other UKL2 car I could find, the Mini Clubman, scores a 4 star crash test, where the A3 gets a five star rating (as per the euroncap